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Post by Sokar468 on Nov 24, 2002 19:58:47 GMT -5
Let me explain Options 5 and 6.
5] Making TSE more liberal would allow all forum members to join without any scrutiny or requirements. Only truly offensive members would be excluded, and even then, they are subject to review for reentry. TSE started off this way.
6] Currently, TSE has been heading in this direction, due to the growing size of the Forum. Because some members at this forum have shown more dedication to this forum and have acquired more respect, and such members should be recognized by allowing them to enlist in TSE.
No doubt, things have changed here. What happens in light of these changes is up to us to decide.
Your opinion means everything.
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Post by Seifer_Almasy on Nov 24, 2002 20:03:43 GMT -5
I'm going with #5!! ;D
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Post by Dragoon Tony on Nov 24, 2002 20:06:54 GMT -5
Under no circumstances would I like to see TSE disbanded. I just don't know how the best course of action should be determined. I like TSE the way it was when we started it, but now I understand how some restrictions would be favorable. I'm not very certain of anything right now, so I defer my vote...
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Post by D-Guy on Nov 24, 2002 21:05:11 GMT -5
what is the dilemma? I've been out of the loop.
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Post by DragoonWraith on Nov 24, 2002 21:35:59 GMT -5
OK, I STARTED THIS, BUT IN NO WAY DID I WANT TSE DISBANDED!!!! I choose #5, because that's what TSE is. If you want ranks in TSE to be given to the "elite" members of this board or something, fine, but I don't think it's right to keep people out of the club altogether because they are not "elite". Remember: TSE is Team Self-Esteem. The whole point was to get as many people as possible to join so that these boards would be free of spammers, flamers, and all around more mature. Why would we exclude the very members who really need to make this kind of commitment? I think you should make joining TSE more of a big deal, and punish those who break the rules, but all things in moderation. crono789 is really the prime example here: He flamed synthetic, but he was very mature and apologized. That is much more mature than most of us, including me. What I think should be done is this: Make joining TSE a serious deal, about truly promising not to break the rules of TSE. But everyone's going to have screw-ups, and as long as the person isn't an asshole about it (i.e. blaming other people, not admitting to it, continuously getting pissed off at people and pretty much ruining these boards. I'm talking people like Zephyr and MOTHMAN and the old Vincent_X2.) they should just be sent to "training camp" like Duran or some such punishment, but not banishment and repeated flaming of the person (not to mention that that goes against the whole point of TSE.) I am very passionate about this, TSE is really eroding into a celebrity's club... I think the best thing to do would be to have ranks or special notice to people who are the "elite" And don't give the "elite" overwhelming powers, just recognition and respect, and I think everyone will strive to reach this status, and not just for extra priveleges or powers. Seriously, think about this Sokar. BUT DON'T DISBAND TSE!!! even as it is, it's a good thing...
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Post by Gustave on Nov 24, 2002 22:16:37 GMT -5
Definitely #5. TSE should not accept just anybody, but to not allow people to come in after they have shown themselves to be more than a 3-post drifter is absurd.
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Post by Granular Fire on Nov 24, 2002 22:21:41 GMT -5
About time someone mentioned this.
We're losing the point of SELF-ESTEEM (Difinition's in my sig.) We need to regroup. If you have self-esteem, it means you don't flame and harass others, even if they did it to you. But I don't want TSE disbanded so Choice #5 goes with me.
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Post by SwordMaster on Nov 24, 2002 22:27:45 GMT -5
Whatever it is you do, dont get rid of TSE! Anyways, #5 sounds good to me, everyone deserves a chance.
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Post by Sokar468 on Nov 25, 2002 0:01:36 GMT -5
It's difficult because there is a lot of gray area. Some people want some regulation, but not too much. But it seems that the current amount of regulation seems a bit too much. I know a few want us to continue to be more selective. I will wait for more votes before acting.
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Post by DragoonWraith on Nov 25, 2002 17:28:39 GMT -5
Sounds good... Really, I think that anyone who asks to join TSE must've been here long enough to find out about it and care, and therefore isn't a drifter... I think we should allow in anyone who seriously wants to get in, and is willing to follow the rules... Like, if MOTHMAN came back again and was like "Hey! I hate you people, but can I join TSE?" We wouldn't let him in. Or even if he didn't mention the fact that he hates us, but just asked to be in, we should be like, "You hate us, why do you want in, and why should we let you." If he truly apologized, I think we should let him in on a trial basis, or like probation. I think probation should really be the status of anyone who just joins: "You're in, but you better show us your serious about it."
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Post by Sokar468 on Nov 25, 2002 18:49:02 GMT -5
Sounds good... Really, I think that anyone who asks to join TSE must've been here long enough to find out about it and care, and therefore isn't a drifter... I think we should allow in anyone who seriously wants to get in, and is willing to follow the rules... Like, if MOTHMAN came back again and was like "Hey! I hate you people, but can I join TSE?" We wouldn't let him in. Or even if he didn't mention the fact that he hates us, but just asked to be in, we should be like, "You hate us, why do you want in, and why should we let you." If he truly apologized, I think we should let him in on a trial basis, or like probation. I think probation should really be the status of anyone who just joins: "You're in, but you better show us your serious about it." To tell you the truth, MOTHMAN was once a member of TSE... Scary, huh?
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Post by Swordmasterdragoon on Nov 25, 2002 18:51:57 GMT -5
yeah it was really weird.
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Post by SNK! on Nov 25, 2002 19:02:16 GMT -5
Who voted for number 1?
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Post by Sokar468 on Nov 25, 2002 19:04:55 GMT -5
People have their opinions, let's not assassinate anyone, SNKkid.
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Post by SNK! on Nov 25, 2002 19:09:43 GMT -5
People have their opinions, let's not assassinate anyone, SNKkid. I wasn't going to, but I wanted to see why they felt that way, "I don't like TSE" isn't an opinion, it's more of a fanboy esque statement "I don't like TSE because it's leaders are assholes because they flame everyone" is more of an opinion, you have to SUPPORT your statement.
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