Kraggzz
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Post by Kraggzz on Nov 21, 2003 19:34:58 GMT -5
Why is "The forbidden word that starts with an R and ends with an M" not wanted on this site? I see no real reason for this...
*I'm not trying to be a jerk I'd just like to know.
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Post by Ghosty on Nov 21, 2003 19:51:25 GMT -5
Why is "The forbidden word that starts with an R and ends with an M" not wanted on this site? I see no real reason for this... *I'm not trying to be a jerk I'd just like to know. I believe that the word you are actually looking for starts with "Emu" and ends with "lation", and I can't speak for them, but from what I've seen/heard the admins don't want discussion about it on the forum partly because it's illegal and also partly because they want this site to be mainly on KoL, FFTA, Disgaea, and other games or whatever else they want to talk about, but what you are referring to is off-topic. and I quote from the rules thread: "Please, don't post any links relating to emulation. This is a Tactics Ogre fansite, and we would like to keep it that way. If you're looking for any kind of emulation (ROMs or ISOs), then this isn't the right place to request those kind of things." I think KoL or Crono could give you a better answer. Somewhat on-topic, I'm also pretty sure that they DO however allow PMs about emulation, just don't post stuff about it (including problems with them, looking for specific sites/games, or other stuff.)
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Magicman
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Post by Magicman on Nov 21, 2003 19:54:01 GMT -5
In regards to Ghosty's somewhat on-topicness: They can't do anything about PMs, short of logging in as you and reading your in and out boxes.
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Post by Ghosty on Nov 21, 2003 19:56:53 GMT -5
In regards to Ghosty's somewhat on-topicness: They can't do anything about PMs, short of logging in as you and reading your in and out boxes. Well what I meant was they're not going to actively patrol our PM boxes, and I think that they said they don't mind us discussing it between ourselves.
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Post by Knight of Lodis on Nov 22, 2003 2:27:17 GMT -5
I can't stop or read PMs. However ROMs are illegal and therefore may be be discussed or shared on the site. Plus we promote the sales of games and would like everyone to go get legit copies
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Post by Magicman on Nov 22, 2003 9:24:33 GMT -5
I can't stop or read PMs. However ROMs are illegal and therefore may not be be discussed or shared on the site. Plus we promote the sales of games and would like everyone to go get legit copies
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Kraggzz
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Post by Kraggzz on Nov 22, 2003 12:27:20 GMT -5
They're illegal? Or do you mean it's illegal on this site?
The only reason I use them is because some games are very hard to get, and the only way I can think of is either Ebay and Gamestop, which are both too expensive for me...
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Post by Ghosty on Nov 22, 2003 13:09:44 GMT -5
They're illegal? Or do you mean it's illegal on this site? .... yeah... ROMs are illegal, just like dling music off kazaa and stuff is illegal. It's illegal because it is stealing money from companies that otherwise you would have to buy the games from. The only way that it is somewhat acceptable (I don't think it's acceptable in the law but this is somewhat morally acceptable) is if possibly it's japanese only (or some language that you can't speak) and you want an english translation, or if the company doesn't really make the game anymore and haven't for a long time and stuff (maybe someone else can clarify this part). ROMs are allowed to be dled because technically the only people who dl them "supposedly": #1: Already have the game, this is the legal reason ROMs are there, for backups. #2: To try it out for 1 day. (I think that's the limit that you can get it for free). Of course they aren't exactly very well regulated...
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Post by Gustave on Nov 22, 2003 14:18:32 GMT -5
Exactly right. You have 24 hours to delete a ROM after DLing it, unless you own the game.
Most of us here have moral reservations about using ROMS. i only use an Emulator because my original playstation does not read discs very well, and i downloaded emulators for all the games i currently own.
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Post by Jaggy on Nov 22, 2003 15:47:40 GMT -5
They're illegal? Or do you mean it's illegal on this site? The only reason I use them is because some games are very hard to get, and the only way I can think of is either Ebay and Gamestop, which are both too expensive for me... Yes, they're illegal. I only use roms for games I know I can't get (like those translated imports). However hard it is or however expensive it is to get that game, using emulation is still illegal. But I don't know anyone who has NEVER used it.
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Post by Magicman on Nov 22, 2003 16:30:04 GMT -5
Exactly right. You have 24 hours to delete a ROM after DLing it, unless you own the game. Bullshti. There is no law that says that. If you can find me a reliable source (Like a government website) that says that, I will back off. But until then, that law is bullshti. You are not supposed to DL them, period. The only reason they are online is for archival purposes, not backup. If you look on video game cartridges, they say "Copying of this cart for back up purposes is NOT NECESSARY and is NOT ALLOWED". ROMs are illegal, period.
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Post by Ghosty on Nov 22, 2003 19:24:06 GMT -5
Bullshti. There is no law that says that. If you can find me a reliable source (Like a government website) that says that, I will back off. But until then, that law is bullshti. You are not supposed to DL them, period. The only reason they are online is for archival purposes, not backup. If you look on video game cartridges, they say "Copying of this cart for back up purposes is NOT NECESSARY and is NOT ALLOWED". ROMs are illegal, period. Well my sources are from actual emulation sites and their little "legal warning pages". Emulation sites always have a little page that talks about how their site is legal to stay up because they give a warning, and the warning is that you can only dl them if you either already own them, or if your only testing it for ONE DAY, and then you delete it. I'd post a link to one here but somehow I think KoL and Crono wouldn't like that...
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Post by Gustave on Nov 22, 2003 19:29:08 GMT -5
Well my sources are from actual emulation sites and their little "legal warning pages". Emulation sites always have a little page that talks about how their site is legal to stay up because they give a warning, and the warning is that you can only dl them if you either already own them, or if your only testing it for ONE DAY, and then you delete it. I'd post a link to one here but somehow I think KoL and Crono wouldn't like that... Quite right. I've seen those same warnings.
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Kraggzz
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Post by Kraggzz on Nov 22, 2003 20:50:42 GMT -5
How do they find out if you don't have the game? I mean that's a silly warning if you have no way of finding out....
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Post by Prince of Lemuria on Nov 22, 2003 22:33:20 GMT -5
How do they find out if you don't have the game? I mean that's a silly warning if you have no way of finding out.... Would you steal if you knew nobody would find out?
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