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Post by Ghosty on Nov 3, 2004 20:04:15 GMT -5
hello?? noones even talking about the results or anything about voting day here... whats happened to this board bush has basically like 98% won, even though all the votes probably won't be completely tallied until next week, kerry already conceded at like 11:30 this morning (EST). thoughts?
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Post by Magicman on Nov 3, 2004 21:31:05 GMT -5
I think we'll have to wait 4 years =(
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Post by DRottenI on Nov 3, 2004 21:32:36 GMT -5
I find it pathetic that about half of the country doesnt want are current leader for anymore years and yet Bush will most likely flaunt his victory and just pray that he doesnt start a draft
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Post by Magicman on Nov 3, 2004 22:30:07 GMT -5
What's really pathetic is that only 1 out of every 10 young people (18-29 demographic) went out to vote. Goddam that makes me mad.
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Post by Knight of Lodis on Nov 3, 2004 23:18:57 GMT -5
Well my candidate won. (especially being in VA where all our representitives are Republican and we have a conservative democrat for governor). Yeah 51% - 48% is pretty close. I know a few people are really upset about it.
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Post by fallenangel55 on Nov 3, 2004 23:38:02 GMT -5
I hated both of them. Kerry is smart but he's not alive/agreesive; Where, Bush is okay in being smart, sure screws up a lot but is more out there. It was a tough vote but the thing that does bug me is: when bush was president and he started the war on Iraq, everyone seemed to hate the decision he made. Wasn't it clear for you people that bush was NOT the right person to re-elect? I don't know but I think Kerry should've won....
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Post by DRottenI on Nov 4, 2004 0:22:43 GMT -5
Things are only going to get worse Bush is honestly a moron, I have no idea why people voted fir him, the only reason im really pissed is because IF there is a draft I will be vulnerable to his bull shit antics
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Post by Creed on Nov 4, 2004 18:15:16 GMT -5
I didn't think Bush would win either. I thought after the messy stuff in Iraq and what not, he'd be thrashed for sure... and I was anticipating another repeat of Florida... what a shame... didn't happen...
But it's pretty interesting right? Bush got more popular this time around... apparently religion saved him. I really respect his campaign team. They managed to get another 4 years from such crazy circumstances... I'm not saying the American people aren't wise or are stupid or anything like that, but it really amazes me how Bush and his team could pull this off... and Ohio, God Ohio. What happened in Ohio?
However...
Other than "Iraq" and "WMD" and "trigger-happy" and "economy", I'm not so sure why people actually hate him so much. Not that I support him zealously or something, but don't you think American political agenda in Iraq wouldn't really change irregardless of president? If you really want to discuss on a primitive level, then the plain reason for interest in Iraq is after all, Oil... Oil, oil, oil. And before you criticize Bush for causing chaos, think about the 1970s, when OPEC snuffed the rest of the world for 3 months...and nearly brought the rest of the world crashing. That was chaos.
Oh well, what's done is done. Better luck in 2008 I suppose...
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Post by Knight of Lodis on Nov 5, 2004 2:07:43 GMT -5
Things are only going to get worse Bush is honestly a moron, I have no idea why people voted fir him, the only reason im really pissed is because IF there is a draft I will be vulnerable to his bull shit antics He already said he wasnt drafting. That is some random rumor that somehow got brought into mainstream. I seriously do not think he is as bad as yall make him sound. I only think Kerry would have made matters worse. Sure everyone has their screw ups, but like Clinton, I think Bush can get good things done with the next four years. I never was a Clinton supporter but I read up on his accomplishments during office and they were pretty good. I think Bush can do the same thing with his 2nd term.
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Post by Ghosty on Nov 5, 2004 4:02:50 GMT -5
He already said he wasnt drafting. That is some random rumor that somehow got brought into mainstream. I seriously do not think he is as bad as yall make him sound. I only think Kerry would have made matters worse. Sure everyone has their screw ups, but like Clinton, I think Bush can get good things done with the next four years. I never was a Clinton supporter but I read up on his accomplishments during office and they were pretty good. I think Bush can do the same thing with his 2nd term. sorry i don't see how you can compare bush and clinton at _all_ clinton was a great president, his affair is an unfortunate scar on what otherwise would've been remembered as one of the best administrations since like FDR... bush has done very little that compares to clinton's accomplishments saying that he can improve in the 2nd term means nothing in comparison to Clinton really... [edited out as an unsubstantiated claim >_>, see below], and the last 6 years of his term was spent with arguably the most hostile congress ever, yet he still managed to do many things, such as bringing the national debt growth to almost 0, for the first time since JFK just one example that i saw recently to bash bush =D bush increased the national debt faster than even reagan did... www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm#_ftnref1edit: i simply dont' see how bush's 2nd term will be any better than his first...
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Post by Swordmasterdragoon on Nov 5, 2004 17:06:28 GMT -5
Clinton>>>>>>>shit>Bush
my opinion i rather much dislike bush alot
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Post by TreasureFinder on Nov 5, 2004 17:44:05 GMT -5
1) Ghosty, support your opinions about Clinton passing good "things" throught Congress. That way, you actually have information to back it up. 2) I can't believe that people actually blame the economic state wholly on Clinton. Yes, there was a slight recession during his office, and then Bush comes along and boom, deficits rise. Which President started a war, spending billions of dollars on what seems to be a futile effort which a majority of Americans agree that is not worht fighting for anymore? Wait, don't tell me...I'll get it in a minute... 3) It's pronounced nu-clear, not nu-cu-lar. 4) True, although Kerry may not have been as aggressive as Bush, he has a third grade education, unlike the President. 5) Go Kerry.
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Post by DRottenI on Nov 5, 2004 18:34:34 GMT -5
Just because he claims he wont start a draft doesnt mean he wont, maybe not now but soon or later he will and with him being re-elected it only gives him more time to ruin this country
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Post by Dark on Nov 5, 2004 18:43:25 GMT -5
Just because he claims he wont start a draft doesnt mean he wont, maybe not now but soon or later he will and with him being re-elected it only gives him more time to ruin this country I think America can handle another 4 years with Bush-then again, this is Bush we're talking about...
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Post by Ghosty on Nov 6, 2004 23:22:08 GMT -5
1) Ghosty, support your opinions about Clinton passing good "things" throught Congress. That way, you actually have information to back it up. rawr, i'm too lazy to actually find EVIDENCE ::shudders:: so i'll just delete my claim hehehe >_> also, although i'm antibush i still have to agree that theres a lot of hatred toward him based on too little evidence, again on the other other hand theres a lot of support for him for entirely no reason bleh, i'm actually not sure as to which side gets more ignorant support, maybe this has to do with the fact that basically all forms of media suck and can't report all of the facts, all of the time >.<, so its hard to get a good picture of things
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