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Post by TreasureFinder on Jul 10, 2003 10:12:31 GMT -5
Not only that, but I think countries that allow abortion won't recieve aid from the U.S. which I think is quite unfair. The Bush administration is forcing its views onto other countries. Thus, Afghanistan, Iraq, Liberia etc. The thing about teaching abstinence is that many people already have the disease, and if the women are pregnant, chances are that their children will have it also. I agree with Zynx, why don't we put that money into research? I have my own hypothesis about what causes depression. Ah, thank you medicine commercial with the little round thing.
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Post by Sokar468 on Jul 10, 2003 14:32:55 GMT -5
People need to get it through their heads:
Abstinence doesn't stop AIDS!!!
Safe sex and no sex, despite what some hot-headed Americans believe, are NOT the same. Regardless of when, how, where, or with whom you have sex with, STD's will always ALWAYS be a risk. So what are you going to tell them? Don't have sex EVER? Yeah, that makes sense...
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Post by TreasureFinder on Jul 10, 2003 18:50:05 GMT -5
Yes, that's quite true. Actually, any kind of sex, or sex play, can transmit STD's. Even if you don't actually "do it" but get close to it, you can contract a STD. I think it is genital warts that can get transmitted by touching. Just plain nasty.
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Post by sharpshooter on Jul 10, 2003 18:50:54 GMT -5
People need to get it through their heads: Abstinence doesn't stop AIDS!!! Safe sex and no sex, despite what some hot-headed Americans believe, are NOT the same. Regardless of when, how, where, or with whom you have sex with, STD's will always ALWAYS be a risk. So what are you going to tell them? Don't have sex EVER? Yeah, that makes sense... NOOOO I dont want to die a virgin!!! ;D
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Post by Sokar468 on Jul 11, 2003 8:31:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I love how some people say "The safest sex is no sex," or even better, "The best sex is no sex." You know, the species needs to survive through sex, and it IS a natural human urge anyway. Yes, that's quite true. Actually, any kind of sex, or sex play, can transmit STD's. Even if you don't actually "do it" but get close to it, you can contract a STD. I think it is genital warts that can get transmitted by touching. Just plain nasty. Trying to scare people out of having sex by using STD's as a weapon is just plain wrong. People every day suffer from STD's, most of them innocently, so to use it as a means of advocating abstinence is a real kick in the face for those who have to suffer each and every day. It's like scaring people not to smoke pot by pointing out the messed-up children who were innocently brought into this world when their mother was addicted while pregnant.
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Post by Dark on Jul 12, 2003 19:59:20 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]I came here to talk about the war on Iraq......it somehow turned into a discussion about safe sex. Hey I dont mind...I really do hate STDs too. Anyway u were all very serious in page one about the war and Im no good at being serious so I thought Id loosen up ur tension with a music video. I had a laugh or 2...u shud too. atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/real_hussein [/glow]
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Post by Sokar468 on Jul 14, 2003 8:18:10 GMT -5
In terms of teaching abstinence, refusing aid to abortion-supporting countries: Soemone on a nother forum said that since we are giving them are money, we have every right to impsoe our culture. I don't know about that, heh. Since when does money buy cultural rights? Am I wrong here?
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Post by SNK! on Jul 16, 2003 11:27:41 GMT -5
In terms of teaching abstinence, refusing aid to abortion-supporting countries: Soemone on a nother forum said that since we are giving them are money, we have every right to impsoe our culture. I don't know about that, heh. Since when does money buy cultural rights? Am I wrong here? Imposing your culture on some one makes them hate you. I really feel that the christian missionaries trying to convert Muslims have really fueled the hatred of the middle east toward the US. The human race is a very stubborn race and one of the things we hate the most is being told that we're wrong. How many of you have ever gotten pissed about being proved wrong before? If you said "no" to that, you're a liar. I fully believe that no one has the right to impose their beliefs or culture upon someone else no matter how much money is involved. Trying to impose your culture on someone only serves one purpose: destroying diversity. Attempting to destroy our humanity by slaughtering our individuality and diversity is disgusting and should be banned.
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Post by Raphael on Jul 16, 2003 14:51:51 GMT -5
In terms of teaching abstinence, refusing aid to abortion-supporting countries: Soemone on a nother forum said that since we are giving them are money, we have every right to impsoe our culture. I don't know about that, heh. Since when does money buy cultural rights? Am I wrong here? Well, unfortunately, money is a major dictating force on our lives, we need more money to be popular, to have the best stuff, etc. It's such a major force that it is ruling what other people do, you can nowadays bribe a man with set ideals to do something the exact opposite, if your price is right. The love of money is ruining our lives.
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Post by Sokar468 on Jul 17, 2003 8:33:48 GMT -5
Well, unfortunately, money is a major dictating force on our lives, we need more money to be popular, to have the best stuff, etc. It's such a major force that it is ruling what other people do, you can nowadays bribe a man with set ideals to do something the exact opposite, if your price is right. The love of money is ruining our lives. I agree, money has so many bad attributes, but without it, our economy would collapse, the country (or world) would be thrown into chaos, and we would all be f**ked. It's like cars/automobiles--it helps make the world work more efficiently and speedily, but the deaths and injuries and environmental damage that they cause are the compromises we must make.
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Post by SNK! on Jul 17, 2003 22:04:17 GMT -5
I'd just like to use this post to point out my inability to understand how anyone can support George Bush still. If you didn't already hate him before, when asked about his stance on all these guerilla warfare killings, Bush responded with "bring em on!". That's right... he's Inviting more senseless murder. I'm just disgusted. By the way, arn't there any pro-war people on this forum at all?
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Post by Sokar468 on Jul 18, 2003 8:44:21 GMT -5
I think "bring it on" may have been more of a "we won't take your shit" than "yeah, let's fight some more!" attitude. But still, I think he could have placed it in a more tactful manner than that.
I am not anti-war, but I think getting involved in this Iraqi freedom shit will hurt us and the Iraqi people far more than it will help them. I believe in war when their is clear and present danger of some threat--I just didn't think Iraq was exactly it, especially not at this current cost.
So, yes, I am pro-war when there is an actual REASON why we should be somewhere.
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Post by SNK! on Jul 18, 2003 11:47:44 GMT -5
I am not anti-war, but I think getting involved in this Iraqi freedom shit will hurt us and the Iraqi people far more than it will help them. I believe in war when their is clear and present danger of some threat--I just didn't think Iraq was exactly it, especially not at this current cost. So, yes, I am pro-war when there is an actual REASON why we should be somewhere. Exactly. By "pro-war people" I was refering to the Iraq war, not wars in general. But I do agree with you on that note. As humans, war is inevitable, violence is just part of our humanity. however, I think that wars should be avoided if possible, but I must accept that sometimes it MUST happen. I do not feel the current situation in Iraq is one of these cases. While I ccan understand where they are coming from, these anti-war radicals are just impractical.
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