Magicman
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Post by Magicman on Mar 9, 2004 17:49:17 GMT -5
What REALLY pisses ME off is people like Sektor (nothing against ya personally, just your attitude) who adopt this "holier-than-thou" attitude against people. Like, "*I* don't smoke. *I* know it's bad for you. *You* smoke. *You're* a dumbass. *You* don't know anything. *You're* a weakling. *I* volunteer at hospitals. *I* see firsthand what will happen to you. Do as *I* say and as *I* do." That's all well and good, Sektor, but in my eyes, you're starting to sound like the stereotypical Jehova's Witness, with their in-your-face, never-accept-no type of "ministering". Lay off, because we all have our own lives to live, and I for one am not going to listen to you. Granted, I don't smoke anyways, but that's beside the point. I will do what I feel I should do, not what you think.
Almost the entirety of my dad's side of the family smokes. I've seen how cancer eats them up, how they're too weak to move, how they have lung problems so bad they can't even walk to the bathroom. Most of them knew the risks (I say most because they didn't actively campaign against smoking in the fifties), some didn't. Do they regret it? You ask them. Some will say yes, some will say hell no.
Look Sektor, I respect you and all, but I disagree with the way you are expressing yourself. Ultimately, we should all do what we feel is right, not what other people (namely you) feel is right.
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Post by Sektor on Mar 9, 2004 19:05:26 GMT -5
No no, you misunderstand. I *knew* it was harmful. I also *knew* I wouldn't get addicted with one cigarette. I believe that, generally, you should try bad things so you have a better idea of what you are or aren't missing out on. As for me, I had no idea what the actual experience of smoking was like, I tried it, I decided it was stupid, and promptly stopped after throwing up. Whatever. Now you're going to jump on me for my "try bad things" statement, right? I can see it now... As for that, I have no answer except for this: If you're willing to live with the consequences, go for it. Edit: Jesus, now you're going to jump on me for that too huh? Something along those lines, right? As for THAT, I have to say: Consult your moral code, and drop this debate with myself. =P I think you're just confusing yourself there , and I don't recommend your moral code to anyone. You'll eventually *try* something bad which you cant take back.
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Post by Magicman on Mar 9, 2004 19:14:34 GMT -5
I think you're just confusing yourself there , and I don't recommend your moral code to anyone. You'll eventually *try* something bad which you cant take back. Naw, I understand myself just fine. And I don't care if you reccommend it to anyone or not. =P That's why it's mine and not yours. Part of it is not shoving it in other people's faces. I stated it because the *debate* (with myself, over hypothetical situations) called for it.
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Brodie
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Post by Brodie on Mar 9, 2004 19:20:21 GMT -5
i might be a new member to the boards but im a verteran smoker even tho im 14. i smoke both weed and cigarettes and find that it not only calms me down it also gets me high sometimes. i believe everyone has choices in life and that these choices shouldnt be influenced by A. people who havent experienced it and B. people who have experienced it but stopped due to the a group
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Post by Dragoon Tony on Mar 9, 2004 19:28:32 GMT -5
^^^^Exactly right. However...no offense, but a pothead is hardly the one to be taking advice from on a matter such as this.
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Post by Brodie on Mar 9, 2004 19:31:54 GMT -5
even tho im a pothead doesnt affect my intellignence i mean thats just a sterotypical image its like saying that all asians are smart or that a black man must love kool aid some of the greatest minds on the earth have been affected by drugs or external stimulation
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Post by Takun on Mar 9, 2004 19:49:12 GMT -5
[glow=yellow,2,300]OK. Listen up people. 1 :DO NOT SMOKE!!!!!!!!!! and thats it...thats the only message people need. 2 :Dont let your so called freinds pressure you into smoking. If you refuse to and they dont accept you any more, screw them. They are not your freinds. 3: Dont hang around people who smoke. They may be able to withstand it, but lots of people die because of second hand smoke.4: Some peoples body cells are not affected by the chemicals inhaled during smoking but most people are.5: ok im tired you think of a number 5[/glow]
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Post by Brodie on Mar 9, 2004 19:52:41 GMT -5
[glow=yellow,2,300] OK. Listen up people. 1 :DO NOT SMOKE!!!!!!!!!! and thats it...thats the only message people need. 2 :Dont let your so called freinds pressure you into smoking. If you refuse to and they dont accept you any more, screw them. They are not your freinds. 3: Dont hang around people who smoke. They may be able to withstand it, but lots of people die because of second hand smoke.4: Some peoples body cells are not affected by the chemicals inhaled during smoking but most people are.5: ok im tired you think of a number 5[/glow] Ok ur first two reasons i can understand but # 3 is just a crappy reason. 2nd hand smoke is comparable to car exhaust or industrial exhaust. i dont think anyone has ever gotten sick or devoloped cancer from 2nd hand smoke
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Post by Creed on Mar 9, 2004 19:53:04 GMT -5
dunno why people smoke, it's stupid and it can kill you (note: see signature image)
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Post by Brodie on Mar 9, 2004 19:55:49 GMT -5
i hate those cigarettes that give u cancer after only trying one ;D
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Post by SNK! on Mar 9, 2004 19:57:07 GMT -5
[glow=yellow,2,300] lots of people die because of second hand smoke.4: Some peoples body cells are not affected by the chemicals inhaled during smoking but most people are.[/glow] If you can show me a website that states this facts I will believe you.
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Post by Takun on Mar 9, 2004 19:57:31 GMT -5
Ok ur first two reasons i can understand but # 3 is just a crappy reason. 2nd hand smoke is comparable to car exhaust or industrial exhaust. i dont think anyone has ever gotten sick or devoloped cancer from 2nd hand smoke [glow=yellow,2,300] Can a car of a fregghin factory fit in the living room of you house....mayhaps a car but living with someone who smokes in doors....thats my point [/glow]
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Post by Brodie on Mar 9, 2004 20:03:23 GMT -5
unless u live in the fricking tibetan mountains i doubt uve never been near a car now chibi there are these things on the back of cars called exhaust pipes and they let out chemicals that the car doesnt use in cities and if ur near a car ull breath in these fumes and theyll somehow hurt ur body indutrial exhaust hurts all of us in miniscule ways just like 2nd hand smoke thats the point i was trying to make
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Post by Jaggy on Mar 9, 2004 20:04:57 GMT -5
I would have to agree with Sektor on this. Oh and #3 is not a crappy reason. Second hand smoke is indeed, more harmful than smoking itself. And it does carry substances in it that can cause cancer. www.epa.gov/smokefree/healthrisks.htmlunless u live in the fricking tibetan mountains i doubt uve never been near a car now chibi there are these things on the back of cars called exhaust pipes and they let out chemicals that the car doesnt use in cities and if ur near a car ull breath in these fumes and theyll somehow hurt ur body indutrial exhaust hurts all of us in miniscule ways just like 2nd hand smoke thats the point i was trying to make Second hand smoke contains a lot more harmful chemicals than exhaust. Second hand smoke doesn't hurt us in "miniscule" ways. They obviously can't be compared.
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Post by Jaggy on Mar 9, 2004 20:09:13 GMT -5
Um, no, it's not BS, it's a fact. We were told that in elementary school. Do I have to give you more information to prove it?
What is second-hand smoke and is it harmful? Yes. Second-hand smoke is the combination of smoke from a burning cigarette and smoke exhaled by a smoker. Inhaling second-hand smoke, (also called passive smoke or environmental tobacco smoke), from another person's smoking may be even more harmful than smoking yourself. The smoke that burns off the end of a cigar or cigarette contains more harmful substances (tar, carbon monoxide, nicotine and others) than the smoke inhaled by the smoker.
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