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Post by Sektor on Mar 11, 2004 17:48:49 GMT -5
But you do say what's right and what's wrong. And how do you figure that you're better than a smoker? Because you're "smarter"? Tch. Another stereotypical, prejudiced statement. Tch. I said, there are many smart smokers. You basically said, "That's bullshit". That makes you sound like an intolerant idjit. And why do you keep falling back on the "wild assumptions" card? You are acting like someone preaching the words of good through an Old-English tongue. And it does have to do with smoking, since it pertains to smokers themselves, therefore it is on topic. Yes, skewed. Your view on smoking itself is dead-on, because it's fact. Your view on smokers is skewed, probably because of your hatred for the act itself. I never said it shouldn't be criticized, I agree with you on that point. I think less people should smoke, myself. I agree it is a huge issue. I agree people have become rather desensitized to it. I do think your view on smokers is messed up. Oh, and Brodie, where's the logic in that statement? "My uncle died of lung cancer, and that's why I smoke; I wanna be just like him! ;D " <-- Hypothetical statement there, but you get the idea, right? OMFG, you have to be kidding me. I SAID you're making a wild assumption by saying I think smokers lack common sense. I'm better than smokers in a sense that I DONT SMOKE. I'm not fucking preaching anything, im saying SMOKING IS STUPID. If I were preaching I would say that it's sinful and would send you to hell. Holy shit you're quick to judgement.
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Post by Brodie on Mar 11, 2004 17:50:43 GMT -5
preaching just doesnt apply to speaking the words of religion. it can be to any cause like anti smoking or independence or watever
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Post by Sektor on Mar 11, 2004 17:54:13 GMT -5
I realize that, I don't see myself preaching though. I may be advocating, but not preaching
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Post by Brodie on Mar 11, 2004 17:55:44 GMT -5
ok wow like my first post was in this thread and like most of my posts have been in this thread
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Post by TreasureFinder on Mar 11, 2004 18:11:23 GMT -5
Has anybody besides me noticed that it's the same four people arguing incessantly?
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Post by Brodie on Mar 11, 2004 18:14:42 GMT -5
yes would u like to join us?
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Post by Magicman on Mar 11, 2004 18:23:01 GMT -5
OMFG, you have to be kidding me. I SAID you're making a wild assumption by saying I think smokers lack common sense. I'm better than smokers in a sense that I DONT SMOKE. So why is this "assumption" suddenly a "wild" one? I know you can't be talking about smokers lacking intelligence, because you're smart enough not to say something retarded like that. The only other conclusion is you're saying they lack common sense by choosing to smoke in the face of all the anti-smoking ads and what-not. You're one to talk.
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Post by Sektor on Mar 11, 2004 18:46:50 GMT -5
So why is this "assumption" suddenly a "wild" one? I know you can't be talking about smokers lacking intelligence, because you're smart enough not to say something retarded like that. The only other conclusion is you're saying they lack common sense by choosing to smoke in the face of all the anti-smoking ads and what-not. You're one to talk. Let us recap and see who really is the one to quick judgement. I said: "People who do smoke are weaklings under peer pressure or just stupid... Even if it's just occasionally." This isn't a quick judgement, I clearly explained my experiences as to why i came to this conclusion.
You said:
I said: You already knew it was bad and harmful to your health and you tried it anyway, yeah I'd consider that stupid.
Notice how I didn't say YOU were stupid but choosing TO smoke that cigarette was stupid.
Then you suddenly flipped out. I'm going to put in bold all the ridiculous things you said:
First section in bold: You're basically saying im pompous and arrogant.
Second section in bold: There's nothing for you to listen to. I'm not trying to convince you to do anything
Third section in bold: You're telling me to stop telling people what to do in their lives when I never even mentioned the sort. Does
"I dont smoke, never smoked, dont plan on smoking. Three of my aunts smoke and three of my uncles smoke, it's horrible. I cant even stay in the same room with them for 5 minutes before demanding air. I volunteer at a hospital and damn, I see a lot of shit related to smoking. There's this one woman I had to move who couldn't breathe without her oxygen tank and she told me it was all from smoking since she was little. I hate it. People who do smoke are weaklings under peer pressure or just stupid... Even if it's just occasionally. I'm sure there are thousands of ways to 'relax' other than spending lots of money to get high."
sound like im telling people what to do with their lives? And you're still wondering why I think you make too many wild assumptions and why you're quick to judge? You're way off the chart there
Can an admin lock this? It's nothing but a flame war now
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Post by Magicman on Mar 11, 2004 19:14:41 GMT -5
I clearly explained my experiences as to why i came to this conclusion. Really now? I don't see any of that. So you can read. Huzzah. You are, in a roundabout way. Again, in a roundabout way. It's like a dentist showing a picture of a bad mouth and saying, "This could happen to you". He's not saying, "BRUSH YOUR TEETH", but he is at the same time. Edit: I've said my piece. I'm not going to reply to this topic anymore.
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Post by Sektor on Mar 11, 2004 19:21:37 GMT -5
Really now? I don't see any of that. So you can read. Huzzah. You are, in a roundabout way. Again, in a roundabout way. It's like a dentist showing a picture of a bad mouth and saying, "This could happen to you". He's not saying, "BRUSH YOUR TEETH", but he is at the same time. I explained it in a future post yes I can read. it's an example of your spontaneous judgement. See, there's a difference between me and a dentist. Me, I'm stating my opinion. I listed examples to support my opinion. I'm saying "This did happen, that's why I hate it." not "This could happen to you, so you're gonna get screwed if you keep it up". Just give it up, you're getting at nothing by throwing judgements at me
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Post by Magicman on Mar 11, 2004 19:28:39 GMT -5
I know I said I wouldn't reply, but this is so crazy I just had to. I explained it in a future post And that has what to do with what? Whether or not you explained it in a future post is irrellevant; I was dealing with your specific quote. Judgement maybe, but it's correct. You can read. I said you could read. There you go. You are actually saying both statements. So yeah.
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Post by Sektor on Mar 11, 2004 19:36:10 GMT -5
Now you're just sounding like a dumbass. If you could read, you can see I didnt make any sort of order. You're a little prick you know that. An admin, hurry up and lock this thread. This little fuck is pissing the shit out of me
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Post by Jaggy on Mar 11, 2004 19:39:32 GMT -5
I believe education is also a factor in discouraging smoking. I know the schools in NA have all that anti-smoking talk and whatnot, but I don't know about the schools in other parts of the world. For example, when I went to Japan, I swear, it seemed like half the population smoked. But that doesn't make them all stupid, because they obviously aren't. Maybe a bit uneducated about it? But I DO find it stupid how someone WOULD smoke even when they know how bad it is.
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Post by Sektor on Mar 11, 2004 19:48:37 GMT -5
Canada is pretty bad, too... I went up to halifax and wow, they smoke alot there. When I said people who smoke are stupid, I say that because the decision to smoke was stupid. I didn't mean they were idiots in C2 classes who get straight F's. My uncle is a surgeon with his own clinic, yet he smokes. I find it stupid of him to smoke. He's obviously not intellectually stupid, but his self-carelessness is the stupid aspect. He wouldn't be considered lacking logic/common sense either because that's too vague.
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Post by Jaggy on Mar 11, 2004 19:50:29 GMT -5
I don't know where you went, but where I live, barely anyone smokes. What I meant was, when I was in Japan, it was impossible to be in an area where there's not at least one person smoking. Yes, I know what you're talking about. I was just making a point that occurred to me.
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