Tactics Ogre:Episode VIII Project

[museigan]

I'll cut to the quick; quickly!

Let's face the facts boys and girls, between Squeenix being incompetant and not working on this project; at all. If they ever MADE another tactics ogre, it's not guaranteed to be a 'carry on the plot' like LUCT, it could just be another Knight of Lodis.

So basically I am trying to form a band of hardcore Tactics fans willing to grind the hours and work to make Tactics Ogre: Episode 8. [[Possibly even more if 8 goes well.]]

Will this be canon plot? Assuming the TO series is literally dead, then I suppose it's as canon as DB:GT is to the dragonball series. Otherwise, it will not be save my intention for this to be a professional and defined project that FITS the ogre-series and universe.

I'll need help, I also have big plans for this among them:

- New coat of paint!
You heard it kids, this series is getting a visual upgrade, expect the normal sprite approach and old favorites but with a much more kick-ass appearance. Hoo-wah!

- More paths!
This is up for debate, but if this is to tie together the remaining living heroes such as Tantare, Hamilton, Denim, Warren, Canopus, Haborym, and other such old favorites; expect it to be more than a "L, N, C" ending approach.

- More bad endings!
I personally hate the "Game over" scene, and if like the normal TO series we only have like 50 actual 'battles' then I think giving a small ending to important battles as to 'what became of the victor' is fair and more interesting.

- Ogres Return?
They just may... and it's long overdue.

- More Classes.
Were you upset when Terror Knights disappeared? Or when OGRE BATTLE games and OGRE TACTICS games lacked severely in aligning your classes or their abilities, or even have them at all? Kiss that crap good-bye, it'll be all fixed here if we're able!

Basically, this is a large-scale project I want to have to give my fellows, the fans, what we DESERVE... An Ending.

It upsets me, on a daily basis when I play a Ogre game to sit there, "But what became of this..? Where did it go..? What ending really went to LUCT? Did Hamilton ever get his shit back together...?"

So far from a FAQ by RVoytovich I gathered this possible plot-line, while he meant it as a teaser.... it honestly seems like it could be a good starting point. But REMEMBER my Ogre-Fan brethren. None of the plot yet, besides past plot and histories, are yet set in stone; and we can reforge these ending to be one that we'll all enjoy and remember!

Possibly plotline:

At the end of the day, Tactics Ogre:LUCT & Knight of Lodis is a small part of the larger Ogre Battle story.

Basically what happens in LUCT....

-Lans Hamilton of Zenobia forgets his past and sits drooling, looking at the sea in Valeria.
-The Lodis Empire seems to have its sights set on taking over
Valeria, which could trigger a big Lodis v. Zenobia war.
-The holy Brunhild Sword, stolen by Lodis agents, is reclaimed and returned to Zenobia.
-Lans Tartare and a couple of his officers (Volac and Balzepho)
return to Lodis. Haborym Rams gives chase, hoping to kill Balzepho.

-Valeria is most likely united under Queen Bersalia Overis Valeria.
-Zenobian Lord Mancer Warren Moons is missing, presumed dead.
-Famed Chicken Man Canopus returns to Zenobia after helping reclaim the Brunhild.
-Denim Mown, hero of Griate, most likely travels to Zenobia (maybe with Olivia Foriner).

All this sets the stage for Episodes VIII and more. The imagination can run wild with all this: Lans regains consciousness, only to find Zenobia at war? He and friends Denim and Canopus help King-in-exile Tristan reclaim the throne, forcing the Emperor of Lodis to summon legendary Ogres to defend his crumbling lands? Lans Tartare joins our heroes to get rid of the Ogres as Lans Hamilton seals them away forever
with the Brunhild?


To sign up basically show ability and initiative. We'll flesh stuff out as we go along and get organised

[haddon]

biggest issues here that i see are:
square enix owns the rights, and they have never been a company to allow others to "interfere"
if im not mistaken, matsuno actually wrote out all of the saga long, long ago and knows what he wants(wanted) it to become in the final chapter
8 was always set to be the final chapter
destin? tristan? magus? tactics ogre, as you said, is only one small part of the whole. where are they? if this involves Zenobia, Lodis, Ovaris and Valeria, it would likely need all that we have seen and heard of already.
if the ogres reappear, we NEED the legendary heroes to reappear. after all, that is the entire meaning of Brunhild. to call back the heroes and gods in a time of need for zeteginea.
setting your sights high at the beginning usually leads to failure. make 5 battles, a few character, maybe 4 classes to begin with. go from there. dont map the entire thing out.


with that being said, i would be happy to help with ideas and a small bit otherwise, but i am already tied up with another game in the making, actually.

[Dark]

Haddon is right about Square Enix. The rights to the game belong to them so I don't know if this is allowed. If you were to make a similar game, I'd be interested to see what you come up with.

But, like Haddon already mentioned, take it step by step.

Oh and is this going to be turn-based, grid system like KoL or like MotBQ?

[museigan]

From my personal preference and experience it would be easier to set up one like TO:LUCT/KOL in my own opinion, but that would possibly take a group vote from the team once it was formed.

As for copy right laws. Squeenix can't really do anything long as you give them recognition and are not making profit from said project. [Plus they wont really care at THAT point.]

However, for all reasons the graphics of a tactics games were always in my opinion easier to manipulate and do than their other games, which had more animations and also less control over your parties during gameplay.

But yeah, this is an unofficial non-profit project. =p

[haddon]

Sept 11, 2008 6:10:26 GMT -5 museigan said:

From my personal preference and experience it would be easier to set up one like TO:LUCT/KOL in my own opinion, but that would possibly take a group vote from the team once it was formed.

As for copy right laws. Squeenix can't really do anything long as you give them recognition and are not making profit from said project. [Plus they wont really care at THAT point.]

However, for all reasons the graphics of a tactics games were always in my opinion easier to manipulate and do than their other games, which had more animations and also less control over your parties during gameplay.

But yeah, this is an unofficial non-profit project. =p

you are wrong. even non-profit is illegal, even if you give them credit, without their permission. even if you arent making profit NOW, they have no idea if you could down the line. if you host it on a site, it gets downloaded 32000 times, that site just got 32000 hits and made money. even if you dont charge, whos to say someone ELSE doesnt want to buy the rights?

its still illegal, trust me